You’ve also said you feared seeing a vision like St Bernadette – what did you mean by that and did you ever see such a thing?

You have to realise that this was all more than fifty years ago, we all heard of Visions and Apparitions non-stop in those days, and how it was a sign of great sanctity of you saw one. I was pretty self-centred then as now, and I thought I was very holy so it was only a matter of time before I saw Something in the Sky too.

I wasn’t enthusiastic about it because people who did see visions usually had desperate lives with no one believing them and becoming nuns in the end. So I kept my eyes down from high trees just in case. And, no, I never saw anything remotely like a vision so I needn’t have worried.